Latitude Media's Open Circuit | Sep 10, 2026

Podcast: Open Circuit: AI needs a different kind of power plant

Podcast: Open Circuit: AI needs a different kind of power plant

Conventional gas turbines are booked out more than seven years, but AI infrastructure needs power now. In a new episode of Latitude Media’s Open Circuit podcast, Arbor CEO Brad Hartwig sits down with Stephen Lacey to talk about that gap, and how Arbor is building a different kind of turbine to close it.

Why the backlog exists, and why it won’t clear itself

GE, Siemens, and Mitsubishi’s turbines rely on single-crystal turbine blades, an architecture refined over decades for a slower era of demand growth. Brad explains why that design, as capable as it is, wasn’t built for what AI infrastructure now asks of the grid: firm power, fast, deployed in increments that scale with a site rather than a single monolithic buildout.

Arbor’s turbine runs on a different architecture. Supercritical CO₂ as the working fluid instead of air or steam. Oxy-combustion instead of combustion in open air. A turbine small enough to 3D print, built on manufacturing techniques and materials science that trace back to rocket engine production.

What a community lives with for the next 30 years

Brad and Stephen talk through air quality and water, and what a power plant leaves behind long after the ribbon cutting. Arbor’s oxy-combustion process produces water rather than consuming it. A gigawatt-scale site could generate roughly a billion gallons a year, in places where water is often harder to secure than power itself.

No green premium, just a lower price

Brad is direct about the business case: Arbor’s target is to be cheaper than a conventional natural gas plant. A buyer gets zero emissions and water positivity along with it. He gives a timeline for when he expects that to hold, and talks through what’s shifted in the market over the past two years that makes this the moment for a new entrant in turbine manufacturing.

What’s covered:

  • Why conventional turbine OEMs are booked out seven-plus years, and why their architecture can’t easily flex to meet current demand
  • How supercritical CO₂ and oxy-combustion let Arbor build a turbine five to ten times smaller than a comparable gas or steam turbine
  • Fuel flexibility: running HALCYON on natural gas today, with a path to biomass-derived syngas and carbon-negative power
  • What Arbor has learned engaging communities in Louisiana, and why water and air quality are treated as design requirements
  • Competing with conventional gas on cost, without relying on a green premium
  • What it’s like building a hardware company at a moment when the market and the plan are both changing weekly